The Opeth "Watershed" Thread

nick · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 1:06 pm

I've tried several times to get into Watershed but it just doesn't grab me. The whole thing is completely disjointed and bland, though I do like a couple of the heavier riffs. It just seems like Mike lost whatever knack he had for throwing a bunch of odd riffs together and making them gel. No big deal really, I've been more than satisfied with the new Ihsahn.

I'm really more interested in the covers they did for the special edition, anyone have them?

Dimitri · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:22 pm

nick wrote:

I'm really more interested in the covers they did for the special edition, anyone have them?

Check the metal uploads.

NBomb · **Posted:** Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:01 pm

Erik wrote:

Novembre's a great band, but not really very similar to Opeth besides the whole heavy/light thing. Novembrine Waltz is definitely their best.

Any chance of an upload?

Josef · **Posted:** Mon Jun 09, 2008 7:33 am

Thulsa Doom wrote:

Back onto Opeth, MAYH and Still Life are Opeth's best albums. On these albums Opeth's songwriting is at its peak, mainly because the meandering and repetition is kept to a strict minimum. BWP is Opeth's black album, lots of flakiness and attempts to being somewhat mainstream friendly.

Ghost Reveries was total fucking bore. Even as background music that album fails completely. Deliverence is almost as boring as GR. Damnation was a decent album, but again more suitable for background music than anything else. The new one is just the same old boring, meandering, poorly structured Opeth we've all come to expect these years.

AJ · **Joined:** Apr 6, 2007 **Posts:** 658 **Location:** ME

Thulsa Doom wrote:

AJ wrote:

Thulsa, suck a dick. Blackwater Park is probably the best thing Opeth has done. Deliverance sucks, Ghost Reveries is ok, Watershed is Opeth strecthing out to great effect and a lot of moments remind me of earlier works (the outro to Heir Apparent comes to mind).

Are you so insecure that you resort to juvenile "insults" whenever someone questions your taste? If you're that tight ass I suggest you go to a gay bar on a Saturday night and ask every guy there to sodomize you, it just might help loosen you up.

Back onto Opeth, MAYH and Still Life are Opeth's best albums. On these albums Opeth's songwriting is at its peak, mainly because the meandering and repetition is kept to a strict minimum. BWP is Opeth's black album, lots of flakiness and attempts to being somewhat mainstream friendly.

Ghost Reveries was total fucking bore. Even as background music that album fails completely. Deliverence is almost as boring as GR. Damnation was a decent album, but again more suitable for background music than anything else. The new one is just the same old boring, meandering, poorly structured Opeth we've all come to expect these years.

This board needs more Opeth hate. :alone:

No, Opeth is just the only metal band I listen to anymore because they have stayed pretty damn consistent (BWP even mentioned with the black album is retarded, I know what you are trying to say but if anything the only thing Opeth did to try to be commercial was Damnation), and manage to keep it pretty interesting from album to album. Metal as a genre is pretty douchetastic to me nowadays. No one is doing anything remotely original. At least Opeth can write a part that grabs you once in a while, cannot say that about much else in this genre anymore.

Anyways, I am an Opeth fanboy, who cares?

Michael · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:37 am

I'm with you AJ. I think both Ghost Reveries and Watershed are fantastic. Deliverance was a bit of a misstep, but otherwise, their catalogue is pretty much consistently awesome.

I do miss me some Lopez, though.

Lex · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:01 pm

Shitting on BWP is a ridiculous hipster trend.

The Leper affinity.

SGL · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2008 3:40 pm

The only thing wrong with Blackwater Park is Dirge for November. Otherwise it's pretty fucking faultless. Watershed, as I mentioned before, is a good album but it isn't in the same league as their previous work. The heavy stuff is basically great but the mellow songs or parts of songs fuck up the flow somewhat.

Yeah, I also miss Lopez. And his incredible Latin feel :serious cat:

Michael · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2008 7:17 pm

SGL wrote:

The only thing wrong with Blackwater Park is Dirge for November. Otherwise it's pretty fucking faultless. Watershed, as I mentioned before, is a good album but it isn't in the same league as their previous work. The heavy stuff is basically great but the mellow songs or parts of songs fuck up the flow somewhat.

Yeah, I also miss Lopez. And his incredible Latin feel :serious cat:

I used to think that Dirge for November was kinda shitty as well; then I realised it has probably some of the most original riffs on the whole album. It could have been shorter, but it's still a fantastic song.

I dunno, I think the mellow stuff on Watershed is good. Clearly they are heading in a more proggy direction, and I for one, have no problem with that. At least they aren't sticking to the formula. It's definitely a different kind of mellow this time around.

Lev · **Posted:** Tue Jun 10, 2008 11:24 pm

SGL wrote:

The only thing wrong with Blackwater Park is Dirge for November. Otherwise it's pretty fucking faultless. Watershed, as I mentioned before, is a good album but it isn't in the same league as their previous work. The heavy stuff is basically great but the mellow songs or parts of songs fuck up the flow somewhat.

Yeah, I also miss Lopez. And his incredible Latin feel :serious cat:

Look at what you've done. Someone is going to have to clean this up.

SGL · **Posted:** Wed Jun 11, 2008 8:48 am

nickmcm · **Posted:** Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:03 pm

I bought the album, it's pretty good, but I'm pretty much a "first 4" opeth fan. The album's quality notwithstanding, does no one else think it's fucking gaytarded to call your album Watershed? What's the next one going to be called, Unbelievable Masterpiece?

AJ · **Joined:** Apr 6, 2007 **Posts:** 658 **Location:** ME

nickmcm wrote:

The album's quality notwithstanding, does no one else think it's fucking gaytarded to call your album Watershed? What's the next one going to be called, Unbelievable Masterpiece?

What the fuck are you talking about?

nickmcm · **Posted:** Fri Jun 13, 2008 5:36 pm

Yes, there's the geographic definition. But the second sense is extremely common, especially in discussions of music.

Use a dictionary if you're still confused.

AJ · **Joined:** Apr 6, 2007 **Posts:** 658 **Location:** ME

nickmcm wrote:

Yes, there's the geographic definition. But the second sense is extremely common, especially in discussions of music.

Use a dictionary if you're still confused.

I actually did.

Alabama Tick · **Posted:** Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:23 am

Opeth have never made a bad record.

Fuck y'all

Alabama Tick · **Posted:** Mon Jun 16, 2008 6:24 am

*Braces for inevitable backlash*

Be gentle... :alone:

SGL · **Posted:** Mon Jun 16, 2008 11:13 am

nickmcm wrote:

...What's the next one going to be called, Unbelievable Masterpiece?

Yep. Also known as the Self Titled Album. Or X, maybe.

Rotten Roll · **Joined:** Apr 5, 2007 **Posts:** 11398 **Location:** CT

SGL wrote:

The only thing wrong with Blackwater Park is Dirge for November. Otherwise it's pretty fucking faultless. Watershed, as I mentioned before, is a good album but it isn't in the same league as their previous work. The heavy stuff is basically great but the mellow songs or parts of songs fuck up the flow somewhat.

Yeah, I also miss Lopez. And his incredible Latin feel :serious cat:

Dirge for November is one of the better songs on the album, it's just the unbelievably bad first 35 seconds that makes it seem shitty. Like, Akerfeldt should be ashamed of his singing in that first part. It is awful, awful awful awful. But the rest of the song is really good.

SGL · **Posted:** Mon Jun 16, 2008 12:03 pm

Rotten Roll wrote:

Dirge for November is one of the better songs on the album, it's just the unbelievably bad first 35 seconds that makes it seem shitty. Like, Akerfeldt should be ashamed of his singing in that first part. It is awful, awful awful awful. But the rest of the song is really good.

Well yeah. Whenever I think of that song it's the intro that comes to mind first. The rest of it has a vaguely old school Opeth vibe, which is nice I guess.

Ruthless

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